Friday, August 17, 2012

next steps

DH and I attended a conference yesterday with our RE and a consultation with one of the nurses to discuss our options after our first round of IVF resulted in a BFN.  We have the choice of a) starting our first FET cycle right away, b) taking some time off before continuing with FET, or c) stopping treatment altogether and cancelling our contract with ATTAIN.  It was a no-brainer for us; we chose to a) start FET right away.

The nurse instructed me to start BCPs again before our consultation yesterday so I've been taking the loathsome things for seven days now.  She actually wanted me to start the pills last Saturday, which was CD3, but I felt I needed more time to, as she put it, bleed some more.  So I started them on Sunday.  As it turns out, that was perfect timing because the plan is to take my last BCP on September 1st.  If I hadn't delayed taking them for one day, I would have had to buy another pack just for that one day since there aren't 22 active pills in a pack.  I'm so smart.  ; )  During our last cycle, the nurse told me I could delay taking the BCPs by a day or two if I felt I needed to (which I didn't) so I just took the advice for this cycle instead.

The person in charge of scheduling put us down for a one-hour conference with our RE at 9 am yesterday; we were done in 20 minutes.  He talked with us about:
  • Why our last cycle didn't work when we had such a great embryo:  My uterus may have been too "jazzed up" from the meds during our last cycle and we may see success with this cycle because some embryos may prefer a more normal uterine environment as opposed to a "jazzed up" environment.  Since I will be on fewer meds this cycle, my uterus should be less jazzy.  Or there may have been a genetic issue with our embryo.  But there's no way to know that for sure without genetic testing prior to transfer, which we didn't do because there is a long waiting list and it's another $5,000 out of pocket.  But we may consider it in the future if we continue to experience failed cycles.
  • How many embryos we would like to thaw for our next cycle:  I say two, DH says one.  But I wanted two last time and he wanted one and we transferred one.  So now I think it's time for two.  Our RE said we have four level 2 embryos and four level 3 embryos that are currently frozen.  He said if we want to transfer two embryos, they will start by thawing two level 2s and will know within minutes if they survived the thaw.  Then they will work their way through the remaining level 2s and onto the level 3s if necessary.  I'm praying the first two are like He-Man and She-Ra and are super strong and survive the thaw!
  • Pregnancy rates based on the quality of our frozen embryos and how many we transfer:  I don't remember the specifics; the numbers weren't significant enough to change my mind about transferring one embryo vs. two.  Ooh!  But I do remember something about the twin rate being 51% if transferring two embryos, but that statistic was for a fresh cycle and not a frozen one.
  • Any additional questions we had:  I asked about my uterus and if there could be a problem with embryo implantation because I begin to feel cramps EVERY month the same day I ovulate and that it continues until AF arrives.  I wanted to have a clear answer as to whether it made a difference if the cramping was in the uterus or the fallopian tubes.  The RE who did our transfer (not our regular RE) indicated that cramping on the side (in the fallopian tube area) was normal even though I had specifically asked him about cramping in the uterus.  So I wanted to clear up the confusion on my end.  Our RE said cramping in the uterus or fallopian tubes does not appear to be a factor in implantation because he's had many patients become pregnant over the years who reported the same symptoms.  He also said he can't wait to call and tell me about my positive pregnancy test and say I told you so.  I can't wait for that either.  : )

The main thing I took away from our conversation with our RE was how positive he was that this will work for us and how shocked he was that our last cycle failed.  I suppose he has to be positive in this line of work, but it still made me feel great to hear it from him, the expert.  :D

Our nurse consultation wasn't supposed to start until 10 am but since we finished talking with our RE so soon, he was able to get us into our next appointment by 9:30.  Our nurse consultation was supposed to take an hour also, but I'm not sure why - we were done in about 15 minutes, and that included speaking with the financial consultant.  I can understand the RE conference and the nurse consultation taking an hour each for a first time patient but we'd already been through a cycle so we pretty much knew what to expect.  Plus they sent us material in the mail to read before our appointments so we were well prepared.

The nurse went over my new medications and when to take them.  She faxed in my prescriptions and gave me a copy.  She also gave me a copy of our calendar and we discussed important dates.  I will start my Lupron injections (20 units) on August 29th; it will overlap for four days (like last time) with my BCPs.  I will have an estradiol check and u/s on day 10 of Lupron (September 8th).  I will also start 81 mg of baby aspirin and 2 mg (1 pill) of Estrace on September 8th, and reduce Lupron injections to 5 units.  On September 13th, I will start taking Estrace twice a day - once in the morning and once in the evening - and continue with the 5 units of Lupron.  My dose of Estrace will be increased to three pills a day - morning, lunch time, and evening - on September 17th, and that *should* also be my last dose of Lupron (still 5 units).

I will have another estradiol check on day 14 (September 21st), along with an u/s to make sure my ovaries are still "quiet."  I should not ovulate in September, the Lupron will make sure of this, since we already have embryos to transfer.  If everything goes according to plan, my frozen embryo transfer will occur on September 27th.

How will I survive that long and still manage to keep my sanity??  Oh how I wish we could fast forward to that day!

Oh, and the financial consultant printed off our records and asked us if we had received a bill in the mail yet for the cryopreservation fee (we had not).  So she gave us a copy of what would be due and said we can pay it today or wait for our bill to come in the mail.  Did I mention it was for $1,000?  Yeah.  We'll wait for the bill.  She explained the fee covered one full year of frozen embryo storage no matter how many embryos we have and that if we need storage after one year, the fee would be reduced to $276 every six months.  They did tell us about these fees up front before we even started our first cycle but it's much more of a shock when the bill is right there in front of your face.  Time to update "the numbers" tab!  : (

34 comments:

  1. Sounds like you got everything in order today...sounds like your "less jazzy" uterus will be a better fit! I hope so! We will be here for you each step!

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    1. Thanks for your support! And my jazzy uterus thanks you too. ; )

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  2. I have a great mental picture of your uterus with jazz-hands. :) I'm so glad that you are able to move directly to your FET *and* that your RE is so positive. What I've learned is that yes, they are very optimistic UNLESS there is something to be concerned about. So take comfort in that. It's going to be a long month+, but I'm benched with nothing to do so I'll totally keep you company. Pinky-swear.

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    1. Haha! Glad to hear I'm not the only one who thought of my uterus with flashy jazz hands. ; ) Thank you for your encouragement as we enter our first FET cycle.

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  3. Sorry it took me so long to start following your blog, but I'm here now! :) This sounds like a great plan and I love how optimistic your RE is. Totally makes me smile. I know waiting is always hard, but I find keeping as busy as I can and finding ways to treat myself kind when I start to get impatient makes the time creep a little faster. I'm SO looking forward to following your journey, and to hope-hope-hoping right alongside you.

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    1. No problem! This blogging stuff takes up a lot of time...following, commenting, posting, responding, etc., etc. It's like a full time job. And I've been falling behind myself lately.

      Thank you so much for your hope and support on my journey. Glad you found a smile as you read this post. :)

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  4. That's great that the RE is optimistic and that you can go right into your FET cycle. I understand about the wait being hard...august has felt ridiculously long to me and I am sick of taking bcp. Looking forward to following along wtih you!

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  5. Boo to having to update the numbers tab, it makes me feel lucky to be in the uk, but yey for a date and a plan.

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    1. Yeah, maybe DH and I should consider relocating to the UK to have our treatments covered. ; ) I loathe updating the numbers tab.

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  6. I'm so glad your RE is so positive and that you have a plan to keep moving forward. Thinking of you!

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    1. Thanks heather! It really means a lot to me that you follow along on my journey and are so encouraging to me. : )

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  7. So glad you have a plan and some frosties. Good luck!

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    1. Thank you! Praying we have STRONG frosties! I'll definitely keep you updated.

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  8. Stopping by from ICLW. It sounds like your RE and his office are very informative and have a complete plan set up for you. Best of luck to you with this next cycle!

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    1. Thank you! I really like my RE and his staff. My only complaints are the tech who draws my blood is not very good and the nurses rarely ever answer the phone so I almost always have to leave a message and wait for them to call me back.

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  9. It's awesome that your RE is so positive! Best of luck - sounds like you have a good plan.

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    1. Thank you! Keeping my fingers crossed for this cycle!

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  10. Happy ICLW and best of luck to you! Sounds like a great plan!

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  11. Just found your blog and am coming from ICLW. I'm excited to follow along on this next step of your journey! Praying that it brings you that take home baby. Best of luck to you!!

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    1. Thank you! I'm excited to follow along on your blog as well.

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  12. That is awesome you have a plan!!! Our cycle is pretty muc parallel even to how many we transferred...I agree with you about transferring 2 this time...I told my hubby if we are doing a frozen it will be 2 no matter what...wishing you lots of luck and I hope that the time passes quickly!!!

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    1. Thanks! Glad to hear about you transferring two embryos as well. Good luck to you too!

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  13. Hi. Here from ICLW. Sounds like you have a great clinic and a great RE behind you. Wishing you the best of luck with this next cycle!

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  14. Sounds like you have a great RE. It is nice to know the stats and to have a doctor that is behind you 100%. I wish you the best of luck with your next cycle!

    ICLW #41

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    1. I agree, I'm glad they are so transparent with their stats. It's definitely helpful

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  15. Visiting from ICLW -- looking forward to reading more of your story from the past, as well as the future. Thinking of you as you prepare for your FET!

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    1. Thanks! Looking forward to reading your blog as well!

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  16. ICLW -- I'm glad I'm not the only one picturing a uterus with jazz hands :) Good luck with your upcoming cycle!

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  17. Good luck on your upcoming FET! I also transferred one embryo for the fresh and after our discussion with the RE decided on transferring two for the frozen cycle.

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    1. Thanks! I agree, transferring two for the FET is the way to go.

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